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  • Name: Chief Heavy Runner
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: in Of, Piegan Tribe, Montana
  • Death: 23 JAN 1870
  • Reference Number: Taf:6.6
  • _FSFTID: K2JP-D7L
  • Note:
    !FATHER-SPOUSE: Blackfeet Heritage 1907-1908 Blackfeet Indian Reservation, Browning, Montana, book is published by the Blackfeet Heritage Program, Browning Public Schools, P. O. box 610, Browning, Montana 59417, edited by Rozanne DeMarce, p. 230

    !FATHER: Blackfeet Heritage 1907-1908 Blackfeet Indian Reservation, Browning, Montana, book is published by the Blackfeet Heritage Program, Browning Public Schools, P. O. box 610, Browning, Montana 59417, edited by Rozanne DeMarce, p. 100

    !NOTES: The following article appear in the Glacier Reporter under Remember When By Verena Rattler dated: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:11 AM MST

    "Helloooo, all of my people! Tsa. This reminds me of my grandson, Danny LaForge, when he was just a little guy. I told his mom, Lorilee, and his Uncle Scott that they had a lot of people at Heart Butte. Danny wanted to be in the parade at Heart Butte during their annual Indian Days celebration.
    Verena Rattler


    I also told Danny that he had a lot of people in Heart Butte. He was riding on top of my red Ford Ranger pickup, all decked out in his finest Indian clothes, sitting on an Indian blanket and waving his feather to everyone. Geez, he was comical when he was a youngster; he was so serious. He was waving and just hollering as loud as he could, "Helloooo, all of my people! I'm Danny LaForge. My grandma is Sarah Hall."

    I seen his great-great aunts, Ms. Hazel Weaselhead and Ms. Ethel Aimsback, just a-smiling at Danny and waving back. I told them, "Danny is Lorilee's baby." He told me later, "Grandma, I sure have a lot of people out at Heart Butte. Did you see everyone waving back at me?"

    It also reminds me of when someone is campaigning for a job as our council. They also say, "Helloooo, all of my people!" But, geez, it's hard to get a hold of them once they get elected, they are so busy. Not that I need to see them, but my niece needed some money while her baby was in ICU at Great Falls. Little Henry Butterfly and Reis Fisher both donated $50 to her. I would like to thank them for helping her and her husband out. Baby is at home and doing fine now.

    I've been corresponding with Greg Hirst regarding Dick Kipp, my great grandfather, son of Chief Heavy Runner of the Baker Massacre. He has done a lot of research on this subject. His great grandfather was Cut Bank John Kipp, one of Chief Heavy Runner's sons also, who survived the Baker Massacre. Mr. Hirst has devoted many years to genealogy and has an extensive family tree that covers several generations. I'm sure that Greg won't object to my article, as there are a whole lot of people who are descendents of Chief Heavy Runner who stop and talk to me and want more information, too.

    He related to me that Chief Heavy Runner had four wives. The children that survived the Baker Massacre are: Old Woman's children: 1. Lone Charge Woman (Susan Heavy Runner), who married Martin (Red) Fitzpatrick. 2. Red Eyes (Dick Kipp), married Mary Sleeps in the Day (Long Time Sleeping) and they had thirteen children. 3. Eats Alone, never married. Mistake Petrified Rock's children: 4. Cut Bank John Kipp, married Calf Woman. 5. Many Different People. Charging at Night's children: 6. Double Strike (Martha Heavy Runner), married Joseph Kipp. 7. Comes with Rattles (William Upham), married Antonia Real Chief. 8. Spear Woman (Emma Heavy Runner), married Hiram Upham. 9. Young Heavy Runner. Went in Front's child: 10. Double Rider, married Extravagant Person.

    Mr. Hirst advised that some of Chief Heavy Runner's children died before the massacre, and some were killed in the massacre. He also commented that the Kipp family tree is a long and impressive one. Over the years, he has gone to the Smithsonian, Newbury Library and several other archives to do his research. Greg, you don't know how much I appreciate you sharing this information with me. We have a lot of relations I'm sure will be glad to know this history.

    I was visiting with GG Kipp one day, and he stated he has some information, also. I think my mom gave Darrell Kipp the information my Grandma Cecile had because we can't find the documents Grandma had. Yep, I think we should all get together on this.

    I was also advised by Mr. Hirst that my great grandparents, Dick and Mary (Heavy Runner) Kipp, also had 13 children. 1. Cora Kipp, married Charles Carlson. 2. Louis Kipp, never married. 3. Rose Kipp. 4. George Kipp, married Josephine Lohah (from Oklahoma). 5. Cecile Kipp, married to Joseph LaMott Sr., my mom's mother, who had four children, two died in infancy and Joan Mary (my mother) and Joseph LaMott, Jr. (my uncle Mon who died in 1962). 6. Infant girl Kipp. 7. Thomas Kipp, married to Nora Pepion. My mom was very close to her cousins and called them her brothers and sisters. 8. Annie Kipp, married Paul Running Crane, Sr.; they had three children, Sarah (who my Grandpa Joe and Grandma Cecile adopted; Paul Jr. (who was raised by Dick and Mary Kipp), and Naomi. Paul Running Crane Sr. later married, after my aunt passed on, and my mom claimed all of their children as her own brothers and sisters, too. We are also related to the Running Cranes on my dad's side. 9. Sam Kipp. 10. Jack Kipp. 11. Charles Kipp. 12. Patrick Kipp (my favorite uncle, who I was very close to). 13. Susan Kipp.

    My children always ask how they are related to people. Ho, I think the whole reservation is related somehow or another. Sometimes relations, through the Indian way, are strong as or stronger than blood relations, too. For instance, in my mom's case, since there was only her and Mon, she claimed all of her cousins as her brothers and sisters. Now, I don't claim to be an expert on this issue, but I'm also extremely interested in genealogy, as Greg is. I am trying to gather as much information as I can. If my information needs further clarification or correction, I do not want to offend anyone, just let me know at vrattler2000@yahoo.com.

    I guess it was Martha Double Strike, Dick Kipp's sister, that married Joe Kipp, who gave him the Kipp name. This is all very intriguing to me. I will soon learn more about Bear Head, Chief Heavy Runner's nephew, who survived the Baker Massacre. There is more information in the archives in Helena and in the Smithsonian archives. I want to thank Mr. Greg Hirst for providing me with this very valuable information. He deserves credit for all of his hard work. It is truly and sincerely appreciated, and I know my family is also very appreciative also. Thank you so much. Geez, we've been having some nice weather, but don't get too complacent: remember MaKaipii (spring storm). We have to be prepared at all times. Till next week."
  • Change Date: 12 JUN 2010 at 17:51:12 1



    Father: Packing Tail Feathers COMING UP HILL
    Mother: Weasel Woman

    Marriage 1 Whole or Old Woman
      Children
      1. Has Children Dick Heavy Runner KIPP b: JUL 1861 in Browning, Glacier, Montana
      2. Has Children Susan Lone Charge Woman HEAVY RUNNER
      3. Has No Children Eats Alone

      Marriage 2 Mistake Petrified Rock b: 1818 in Blackfoot, Glacier, Montana
        Children
        1. Has Children John Heavy Runner KIPP b: APR 1860 in , , Montana
        2. Has No Children Many Different People

        Marriage 3 Charging at Night b: ABT 1836 in , , Montana
          Children
          1. Has Children Martha Double Strike HEAVY RUNNER b: 1859 in , , Montana
          2. Has Children Emma Spear Woman HEAVY RUNNER b: OCT 1862 in , , Montana
          3. Has Children William J. Heavy Runner UPHAM b: JAN 1863 in Browning, Glacier, Montana
          4. Has No Children Young Boy Heavy RUNNER

          Marriage 4 Went In Front
            Children
            1. Has No Children Double Rider

            Sources:
            1. Title: Terry D. Smith
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